Episode 11

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Published on:

18th Feb 2025

Finding Clarity with Christie Flynn Audio

Navigating Life's Challenges with Christy Flynn: Insights from an Evidential Medium

In this episode, Elaine introduces Christy Flynn, a professional evidential medium and psychic who specializes in grief support, intuitive readings, and spiritual consultations. Christy shares her journey of personal transformation and the development of her mediumship abilities following significant life changes, including the loss of her mother and other personal challenges. She discusses how loved ones and guides from the other side communicate and provide support. The conversation touches on themes of mental health, the stigma around grief, and the importance of asking for help. Elaine and Christy emphasize the importance of self-compassion and continuing to honor and connect with loved ones who have passed. Christy explains the nature of her work, the experiences of those who have crossed over, and offers wisdom on coping with loss.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Bio

02:26 Christy's Journey and Transformation

04:36 Understanding Mediumship and Spiritual Connections

10:02 Personal Experiences and Insights

21:39 Messages from the Other Side

28:18 Embracing Grief and Loss

44:36 Final Thoughts and Wisdom

©2025-2018 Elaine Lindsay SZF42.com All rights reserved.

Transcript
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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

Hi there.

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It's great to be back.

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I am excited to bring you a guest

today that's a little, let's say,

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outside the realm of our usual guests.

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And the first thing I want to say,

I'm going to read you her bio.

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And before I do that, I just want to

say, I've actually known Christy Flynn

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for, I would say, upwards of 14 years.

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And she made a huge change in her life

to be where she is now, and I have to

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tell you, I just said to her while we

were in the green room the radiance the

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sheer joy that is reflected in every

photo I see of her tells me that she

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is absolutely where she needs to be.

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Without further ado I'm going

to go ahead and give you a

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little bit about Christy Flynn.

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She's a professional, evidential,

medium, and psychic, and she helps

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individuals gain clarity, healing,

and alignment through, excuse me,

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through evidence based mediumship,

combining over 20 years of professional

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expertise with intuitive insights.

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Christy offers transformative guidance

that empowers clients to navigate life's

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challenges with presence and love.

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Specializing in grief support, intuitive

readings, and spiritual development,

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Christy connects with loved ones,

people, and animals, guides, and the

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collective spirit to deliver healing,

clarity, and direction messages.

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She also hosts live events,

workshops, and speaking events

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to deepen intuition, intuitive

awareness, and foster personal growth.

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Through personalized mediumship and

coaching sessions, Christy helps clients

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uncover what's holding them back.

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release what no longer serves

them, and create space for

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greater purpose and fulfillment.

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She's dedicated to fostering healing,

growth, and transformation, and I am so

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incredibly excited to present her to you.

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Christie Flynn: Hi, Christy!

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Hi, Elaine.

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So great to be here with you.

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Thank you so much.

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I can't believe it's 14 years.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

I, I know.

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I was going back and thinking, oh my god.

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Yeah it's been a long time.

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And I know the audience will see right

from the get go you have this inner glow.

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And I can say that because there was a

time where you often appeared stressed.

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And

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it was like you weren't quite sure or

doing what you were meant to be doing.

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And I can say Christy has always been

a kind, considerate, loving individual.

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So that just, I think,

feeds into where she is now.

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That said, we talked here about suicide

loss, ideation, and mental health.

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And these things can be triggering.

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I brought Christy in because We want

to go beyond just talking about a

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specific loss or ideation or even

mental health on kind of one on one.

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I want to go deeper.

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And Kristi is exactly the person that

can do it and give us an idea of,

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I don't know if this will be

the right way to put it into

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words, but what comes back to us?

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What the other side?

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Thinks and feels around these topics and

hopefully this will offer some hope and

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I guess show us a little more empathy

for what until now is often, met with

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silence and stigma and shame and that's

the bigger reason we do the podcast.

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So I'm going to stop talking.

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And Christy, I'm going to get you to take

it away and give us whatever you'd like.

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Christie Flynn: I appreciate that, Elaine.

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I think what happens is and

I'll just speak to that version

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of myself I was 14 years ago.

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I did not.

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I didn't know where I should be

coming from the background where

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I was very, I'm very introverted.

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I like, I'm shy, and that's not

the version that I am today.

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I didn't think I had anything that

had a value because that's what

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I've been told by, could be family

members, it could be where I worked,

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it could be society, and so I stayed

quiet, quietly figuring out my way.

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And actually, my mother's passing in

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where I saw things in a different way.

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Saw, heard, felt things

in a different way.

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And I saw people for who they truly were.

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Because when she passed, people

pulled away and disappeared.

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And it's very isolating to go through

the most traumatic experience of my life.

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And I felt very alone.

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But I kept busy.

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I had a three year old and

a five year old at the time.

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And I thank goodness for that.

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And so many different things

are, experiences and people that

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came into my life after that, but

definitely some people left or

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I made that decision for them.

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And my mom has been the, my

biggest supporter ever since.

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And Whether it's from the other

side across the veil, it's called

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so many different things, heaven.

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And so she has given me perspective and

she helped me through and figuring it out.

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Where is my place?

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What am I doing?

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And it evolved.

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It evolved through her loss.

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It evolved through a divorce.

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Loss of a career, loss of

a, relationship, friendship.

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And the darkest of times where I

wondered, did anybody care if I was here?

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So I went through that too.

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And she was that inner voice saying.

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Absolutely, you are and we're going

to walk through this together and

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I just remember it almost like she

was yelling in my head and that's

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where sometimes they can come through

they communicate people have crossed

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over can communicate with you in a

variety of different ways animals too.

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So they're the supporters.

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showing up, within our heart, our

body, through the mind, that their

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inner thoughts, that inner view

as well as, outer experiences.

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And they've been, my loved ones,

I'll say, my loved ones, my team,

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my guides, my inspirers have helped

me figure it out along the way.

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They don't give it all, so we do have

to do some figuring out and that's

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where experience comes into play.

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And I will note that I've always been

a hypersensitive, what's deemed as a

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hypersensitive, and How that was perceived

from other people would be you're

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oversensitive almost very demeaning.

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Until I realized, finding my voice,

speaking up for myself, that it's

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no longer my weakness, it never was.

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It is my superpowers.

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We all have gifts.

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All have gifts.

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Everybody has intuition

or levels of skill sets.

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It could be, just enough zero all

the way up to 100 percent and I'm

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here to support people when they're

going through difficult situations

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and I use my life as a blueprint.

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I know what that's at some

level and I love what I do and

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I get, I say evidence based

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acting.

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We lost a little bit there.

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I need to make sure.

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I need to make sure who I'm connecting

with, the person here, person I love

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who is crossed, I need evidence from

them so that the person I'm sitting

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with knows exactly who they are.

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I'll call it their essence.

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Whether it's physical, emotional, mental,

spiritual characteristics that they

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know, even memories, they want specific

things, they know for sure it's them.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna: So

I'm going to stop you and just ask a

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question that I'm sure some people have.

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Was this something you always felt?

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Was there discussion in your family

about the other side, about the

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veil, about all of this, and or

was your mom a psychic or a medium?

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Christie Flynn: That's,

I love that question.

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I'm going to back it up to the

point where I remember I was, as a

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child, I was sitting at our cottage,

the family dock, and I was just

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sitting there and Taking it all in.

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We think about how nature nurtures

us and I remember yelling out my

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name and yelling out just different

things and the echo coming back if I

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already knew there was something there.

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I didn't.

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I didn't know what it was, but I was

connecting to something so I, I refer to

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almost as my echo, where it's coming from.

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It doesn't matter to me.

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And then speaking to my family.

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So my family was actually very

religious and there wasn't a

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conversation around talking to

spirit or loved ones other than God.

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However, I know for a fact

when my mother was a nurse.

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Her mom worked in the nursing field.

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I know that they were

hypersensitive as well.

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And so she was more open to show, share

with me in a variety of ways after

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she passed significant evidence and

proof, because I was skeptical as well.

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It's almost like to see a red bird.

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And know how much that were what

that means to everybody here.

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I didn't know back then.

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I just knew it was this

bird was talking to me.

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And then when I didn't, I'm

like, okay, you give me a bird.

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Then One day when I was going through

a really tough day, I drove up after

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It was actually when I was going

through a divorce and I drove up

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to my house as if, oh, I don't know

how I'm going to get through this.

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And there must have been 25

Blue Jays sitting on my house.

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Wow.

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And they're very soul What's the word?

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They prefer to be alone, right?

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Yeah.

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Solitude birds, and so that was an

example of, okay, you don't believe

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we're gonna start bringing you some

things, some evidence as proof.

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And yeah she's been a biggest supporter.

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I want to say other people as well,

my guides, my animals too, that have

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crossed have been of great support to me.

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So we consider that.

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I always like to say that we are

energy, we're in the physical

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form here of our, in the law of

conservation of energy can never die.

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It evolves.

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So the speaking to that, that I know

that they're in a different place,

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what we call it, what we're comfortable

calling that it is very individualistic.

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And yeah,

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna: It's

interesting because there are so many

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names, and it's not even, there are names

culturally and different areas of the

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world, but even within their culture.

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Yeah.

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There

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are quite a number of different

things that we call a spirituality

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and or religion or in spirit beyond

the veil across the other side.

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There's just so many.

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We have so many different

ways of saying it.

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What's interesting is that

All around the world, we are

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talking about the same thing.

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We just have different ways to say it.

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Christie Flynn: Absolutely.

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It's in the art.

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It's in paintings.

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It's in sculptures.

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It's in the stories.

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How it's still the same.

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The stories are still the same.

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Which means there's consistent

experiences across the globe,

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across cultures, across time.

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Yeah.

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I love that.

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That's the proof.

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And I'm at that point where I've been

helping people for over nine years.

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Yeah.

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It evolved through my coaching background,

where they were coming through my

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coaching sessions, so it was very obvious.

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to me and almost them saying, okay,

when are we going to shift and take

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a different direction, little bit

hesitant around what that was going

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to look like or how that was going to

be and what am I going to call myself?

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And I've loved looking back, I've

loved the process for all the tough.

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We have to, it's in the clear, the tough

times we get that clarity but it's the

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moving forward it's continuing on and

figuring out this with a community.

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We need help to go through

these challenging times to

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advocate for people to tell them.

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You don't need to go through this alone.

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We're going through this together,

and finding out who that is for

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you takes some time to figure out.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

That's, okay, that is such a

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critical piece you just said.

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You said we don't have to do it alone,

but you didn't say we don't have to.

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I think it's so important for people to

remember that the challenging times are

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what help us to appreciate the good times.

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Because humans by nature are comparative,

that's, we don't know tall unless we

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know short, we don't know far unless we

know close, it's all comparative it's how

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humans, craft their world around them.

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And.

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The understanding I think more now

than ever people understand about

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energy and how it's all around us.

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It's everything that is.

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Is all part of energy and more and more

people are coming to that conclusion,

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whether or not they are religious, it's

not a, it used to be either or, and I'm

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finding now people are more open to and

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Christie Flynn: I agree with that.

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And I have to say that my, my work

and who I was serving actually.

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Catapulted after 2020 or

during was within two weeks.

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In March, where things began to shift and

I felt called to actually teach about it

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because what we were told is in my world

where you can only serve people in person,

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which I felt wasn't the case because I

had already been helping people through

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zooms, through Skype, through whatever

video FaceTime call, whatever over the

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phone that I'm connecting and that's it.

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Who's telling me how I can do it and

how it works is none of my business.

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I, knowing what's true and for

myself is what's important.

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And 20 percent of my clientele

in that year became men.

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Wow.

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And that idea of asking for

help was almost, it was,

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they were given permission.

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You don't need permission to ask for help.

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I think that's really important.

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We don't need permission.

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I'm struggling here.

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I'm struggling here.

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I'm struggling here.

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Where can I go?

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Who's going to listen and hold space?

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So I hold space.

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I,

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

that's such a beautiful way to put it.

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And I'm older and a baby boomer,

and we are the last generation that.

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It was all about the stiff upper lip, and

on top of that, God help us, I'm a Brit.

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So stiff upper lip, never

let them see you, crack.

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You have to, you keep everything to

yourself, and, I grew up thinking I should

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fight my own battles, and everything

had to be You know, kept in this tight

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little whatever, and it didn't even

matter that I was a girl, I still had

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this feeling that, you couldn't do that.

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And I've told the story before about us

being in Britain when I was 12 or 13.

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And there was an issue going

on with my mom and my dad.

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And It's something to do with

family and I didn't understand or

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know everything that was happening.

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But in the middle of the night, when

I got up, my father was Sitting on

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the edge of the bed and my mother was

holding him behind and his shoulders were

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shaking and it totally cracked my world.

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This is not supposed to happen.

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He's my father.

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He's the rock.

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He's, and even as that went through my

head, it didn't make sense to me because

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He's a human being, but it made it hard

as a teenager to see him the same for a

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while and it's funny how we are brought

up with these preconceived notions.

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And, all these 40, 50 years later,

I have to remind myself that no,

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we, everyone has the same emotions.

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We have positive and negative emotions.

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None of them are good or bad.

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Having them is important.

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Because they're meant to flow and go,

and hanging on to stuff, particularly

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for men, makes it so hard for

them, and that's partly why they

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feel they have to ask permission.

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And very often, they don't want to

lose face by asking for permission.

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And so opening that up, I

think, is critically important.

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And having said that,

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I'm sure that there are a lot of

things that You want to tell us

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that your guides want to share to

Give people a little more hope.

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I'm forever saying a little more hope,

but also offer a little direction.

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And, I don't know, maybe it's permission

is partly what we as humans look for.

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Christie Flynn: What I would like to

say to that is, We, I get this imagery

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right now of one of my guides saying

we layer up with this armor as a way

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to protect us and that idea of what are

we protecting ourselves from, right?

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Because when you throw up this energetic

armor, that's not just about, who can come

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to you, but what you can give of yourself.

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So that idea of, okay

I'm letting that all go.

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I'm going to show up as true as I

can to myself first, without, full

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stop, without concern for what

society is, their expectations of us.

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We're here to serve ourselves,

our values, checking your values.

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What's important?

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Honesty, love, compassion, right there.

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They're saying.

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Give love to yourself

first in the first place.

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We need that compassion for ourselves.

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The thoughts, the ideas that are

flowing in, are they helpful?

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Are they loving?

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Are they good?

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And if not, Bye.

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Bye.

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They're not for me.

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So teaching that to people and

even in developing your intuition

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of that connection of whomever

you want to connect with.

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We need to be in that place of connection

with The best version of ourselves,

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which is when we're in slow in flow

when you just it can be in the shower.

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It can be in that early morning, maybe

three o'clock in the morning or evening

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or when you're doing something, you're

just so connected and you feel at peace.

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Go there.

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So we talk about grounding.

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That flow state is grounding.

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What people typically think

grounding or that connection is

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in meditation or in the outdoors.

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Finding or figuring out or you already

know where you can get, you go into

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that flow where you find a little bit

of like peace and comfort and goodness.

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If anything, you take away from that,

what I said, is love and compassion,

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giving that gift of yourself,

permission to be yourself, let go of

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the armor, and just show up as you

are, because that's where, that's who

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you need to be in the first place.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

Yeah, that, that's all, that's so good.

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It's

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part of what we talk about here in terms

of loss and grief and what have you.

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It's something that was always

part of, that armor for me.

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I wasn't armoring me against them.

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I was trying to protect them from me.

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And I see that in others quite often,

it's not necessarily trying to protect

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yourself from those around you.

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It's feeling that you

are, you're the problem.

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Sorry Taylor Swift, but I

said this first years ago.

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I'm the problem, it's me.

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Feeling that and protecting

those around you from.

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I guess you exploding on them or you,

whatever that may be, I never had a fully

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formed understanding or anyone I ever

talked to had a fully formed understanding

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of what it was we thought might

happen, but it was always about being

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cognizant that you could hurt others.

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And not wanting to do that,

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Christie Flynn: there's actually a neural

neurological way of being to that because

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we default to the worst case scenario.

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How can we have conversations or,

encouragement or information or

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guidance around let's default to

the best versions of ourselves,

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right?

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That's love.

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Why do we go default, right?

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We go to the worst.

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We go to the worst.

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We're in the worry, which

is without presence.

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Because we're, worries about the

future, what can happen and being a

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one, wanting to control our environment.

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So we just push others

away or disassociate.

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So how can we do the opposite

of, stepping in and showing

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up with love and being okay.

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I'm not.

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Maybe I wasn't so perfect.

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What's perfect anyway?

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Anyway,

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

yeah, I've often said if humans were

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perfect, there would only be two of them,

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right?

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Yeah.

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What's the point of that?

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Yes.

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And I realize it's a

very simplistic view, but

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Christie Flynn: and that's why

I think social media does us a

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disservice because we're getting

that perfect view of everything is

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And what if I were to stumble here

and maybe I, something happened.

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Oh, that we are not living in a

perfect world, that things can happen.

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And we just go with the

flow and move along.

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Giving ourselves permission to move along.

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I think we can talk for

this great conversation.

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I love all of this.

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And what I've learned from in my

conversations with people who have come

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to me they never give me anything, by

the way, when people come to me, all I

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know is I'm meeting with so and so in my

sessions, and then we sit down and then I

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I also,

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sorry about that.

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had a little bit of a glitch,

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so I'll restate that again.

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When I meet with clients,

I, all I have is their name.

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I don't have anything else, and I

spend half an hour before the session

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just I pre-write some of the things

that I feel without editing what

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we're gonna need to talk about.

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who's coming in.

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So they'll come to me, people, loved

ones in spirit will come to me.

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The collective consciousness will come

to me to give me a little bit of guidance

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about what we need to talk about.

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And so when I sit with my client and

we go into that conversation and I'll

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get a feeling for what has happened so

I know and they'll say, This idea of,

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I know it's complete suicide or I get

accident often and there's, we'll talk

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about, I'll share what they mean by

that because some people, when they're

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lots of young children come to me and

people of various ages who have crossed

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in that way is that they feel completely

embraced and loved and supported.

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So immediate crossing, surrounded by

their loved ones, surrounded by that,

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imagine that sense of oneness, like a

rainbow, love, like immense love, and

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they feel, oh, I can be myself now.

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And I also, And understand from

the loved ones that this person

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is being embraced a little bit of

therapy as they're transitioning

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from the place of the physical to the

spiritual and that idea that there's

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all compassion, nothing is wrong.

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Nothing is wrong with them.

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And so they can also the loved

one, a particular loved one.

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I remember a young man.

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You say I'm a better

version of myself now,

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and I'm going to take what I've learned

to help those who cross over this way.

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So they become helpers.

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I also feel that they all can see.

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Oh, as their version.

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That they were here on the earth

that, oh, I wish I had been more

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loving and compassionate with myself.

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I wish I had of, asked for the help or

acted on it in a more compassionate way

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and gave myself permission to have that.

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So some tell me no,

this was the right way.

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This was my journey.

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And then some say next time I come

back, you have that idea of what's

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the word what I want to say, where

you come back into another time.

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Yeah,

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

That's probably not the right word.

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Christie Flynn: Oh, there's another

word and it's not coming to me.

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Anyway, so talk about imperfection.

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It'll come to me.

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They come back around and review and

tell me that they will come back again

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in, in a better version of themselves.

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That idea of better with wisdom.

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Reincarnation.

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Reincarnation, that was the

word that I was looking for.

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And I do have a background in,

there's actually a third version

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of who I'm connecting with.

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I worked for missing person cases with

the find me organization in the States.

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I worked on many cases on my own.

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I don't do that anymore.

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However there's just not all the

information as to what happened isn't

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available here in the physical, but

what I get is something else happened.

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Yes.

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If you understand what I mean, I don't

want to go into that, but definitely.

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They are their best fruit.

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I want to go back to when they cross.

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I can feel their personality.

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I can feel their goodness.

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I can feel their light.

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They're brilliant lights.

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They're so filled with love and grace and

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they're very uplifting.

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That's what I can feel.

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And they're here to console.

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They console and take

care of their loved ones.

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In a variety of different ways, how they

whisper, whether it's to see them or

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feel them in a dream or in the physical

surroundings, or maybe smelling, a center,

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a song comes on so many different ways

that they're going to communicate with

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us to let us know they're not gone there.

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They're here in such a

brilliant way to give us that.

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That love that we need here to, so

it's been interesting experience.

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Anybody that I've met in spirit people or

animals they've offered so much wisdom.

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It's sometimes very simplistic and

we complicate things so much here.

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Yeah, it's been interesting.

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They do.

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And I don't feel any heaviness at all.

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I don't when I do are when

I'm doing the work that I do.

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I don't feel tired.

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I don't feel they give me that

love in such a beautiful way

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that it doesn't run me down.

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Yeah, they offer me the goodness and love.

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So it's interesting.

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Yeah, very uplifting

experiences that I've had.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

Oh, that, that's excellent to hear.

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That's, yeah, we have enough angst, if

you will, here in on this human plane

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that it's good to know that there, there's

none there and it doesn't tax you in doing

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that, which makes perfect sense to me.

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That makes a lot more sense to me.

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Christie Flynn: And they are there.

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I just feel maybe when you last saw your

person and you could feel that they were

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down or, had drawn or down or just pulled

in there the opposite of that there is no,

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it's as if they've been permission

to be the highest selves

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that version of themselves.

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So it's very, yeah, loving

and peaceful to you.

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That's good to know.

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And where are they?

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What are they doing?

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna: Yeah.

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Christie Flynn: I get that question a lot,

and like I said, it could, it can be we're

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helpers, we're helping, and it would make

sense depending on their personality, what

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they would be doing, where they would be.

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Yeah.

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And so I love that when they give

me that and it, yeah, it always

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makes sense to the person that I'm

sitting with, what they would be

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doing and who they would be serving.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna: Wow.

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It's a lot to think about, but it,

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it's like a bomb for my soul.

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I hope you, the audience take some of that

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because a lot of the questions we

ask When we've lost people is, are

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they in pain is this and depending

on your religion, there, there are,

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there, there are different religions

who look at these things differently.

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And that always made the

questions, Are they suffering?

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Are they, for me anyway, it was

always now is this a problem?

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And things have changed over the years

as well that even here in human form, we

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are much more beginning to acknowledge

people's pain without the finger of

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judgment just acknowledging someone's

pain rather than judging what someone did.

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I think is, this is ideally, this is

where we have to get to, I think in

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order for us to be more accepting.

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Because by and large, I don't think

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we're not at that place yet

where we fully accept death.

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Christie Flynn: It's difficult.

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And when I passed, when my mom passed,

I hadn't experienced any, or nobody

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around me had an experience of loss.

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Rather than asking how or what or maybe

looking to see how they could figure

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out to help me, they didn't, I didn't

have any of that kind of support.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna: No.

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Christie Flynn: Rather than a card.

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At when things happen,

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I'm still carrying this person with me

and I really encourage so in the stigma

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around if I was to get upset or talk about

my feelings, I was surrounded by people

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were no, don't do that now or that's

why I'm such an advocate for people and

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talking about, I want to share my tears.

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I, I don't care if my children are around,

I want them to see and feel I, I wanna

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have a conversation about my mom and yeah.

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Even to those, your loved ones

who still be able to talk about

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them, their life, absolutely.

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To share their memories, who they were,

what they were about and who they are now.

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And if you don't have that support

around you again, like I said in the

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beginning who do you want to go out

and find who can be in your world that

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will support you in those moments?

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Because it is up and down, right?

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Absolutely.

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It hits us in waves, unexpected waves and.

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And to say, I'm having a moment,

giving ourselves permission to first

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and showing almost like dictating.

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This is how it goes.

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Not how you want it to be.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

Yeah and part of my message with

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the show is say their name, because

for so long, that was taboo.

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When there was an issue,

people were so taboo.

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Busy trying to cover

it up and not mention.

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For me and for many like me now, it's

about, as you say, sharing the stories and

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saying their name, like we do with others.

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But I come from a British background.

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I came to this country with

my grandmother and my aunt.

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And my grandkids, they know things

about my grandmother and my aunt and

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my mom and like they were still here.

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These are not people they've ever

met, but we share the stories.

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We pass those down so that

they can know the full family.

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And that includes.

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Anyone we've lost to suicide or ideation

and anyone with mental health problems,

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we don't, I don't believe in negating

them by not talking about them, but

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that has been the norm for so long.

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It can be difficult for people to.

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Make that switch and start, start

saying what they need to say and

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doing what they need to do in 2021.

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When I started doing

this work, I was I did a

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couple of weekly shows on

clubhouse and one gentleman that

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came in said he was devastated.

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He had lost his mom and he didn't

know What to do about his little

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girl, because on Mother's Day, they

celebrated the other grandmother and

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they did all this and I said why don't

you take flowers to her grave, your

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daughter needs to know who she was.

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She was a very big part of your life.

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And just because they've gone

before us doesn't mean that

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we can't bring them with us.

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Our family dinners always include,

because My grandmother had

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some fascinating things to say.

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And now, we have my

mom, we have my sister.

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We have a lot of family

that are on the other side.

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And it is just part of who we

are, that we talk about them

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as if they were still there.

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Because for us, they are,

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Christie Flynn: I, I completely

agree with you with that.

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It reminds me of a session

I did with a gentleman.

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He was at the military completely

different person from the time he walked

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in until we were in the middle of our

session, but he, his son had passed

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his suicide and he had another son.

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And he was saying, I don't

know how to carry on.

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We used to always do organize

summer fishing trips.

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And I said why can't you

still continue on with that?

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And he was afraid that it would upset

his son and that it would be too much.

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And then I said, okay, but

that you need to be okay.

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It's okay to move through the firsts.

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And it is going to be difficult,

but carrying them with you,

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celebrating them, telling the

stories it is so very important.

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And culturally, even North America, and

you said even UK, we are taught one way

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to grieve, whereas other traditions, other

cultures, not traditions, cultures, where

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They've been given permission where

they can celebrate them anytime,

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wherever, in whatever way they want.

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So it's a matter of us teaching

others and the generations.

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This is how it can be just

because that's the way it was.

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That perspective, that's

not the way it has to be.

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And we do that with love.

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And we figure it out

along the way together.

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So that's how we empower

people moving forward.

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That's how we teach, is showing

the way and how it can be.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

Oh that's beautiful.

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That's absolutely beautiful.

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If you were to leave the audience

with One tidbit of wisdom or something

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that you guys want us to know.

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What would that be?

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Christie Flynn: It's okay to ask for help

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and we do that with love yourself

do what's loving and what's good

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Other people may not understand and

like I said, going to that help,

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that feels right and good for you.

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And that's still going to be a journey

because sometime you can go for help

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and you don't feel that connection.

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Okay?

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Go to someone that will really listen

and understand you and what you're

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going through and that could be,

on an individual basis or a group.

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So finding that community.

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Finding one that embraces

you for who you are.

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna: So good.

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So good.

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It's refreshing and simple and good.

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And.

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Yeah, it's after talking to you,

I feel refreshed, is the word.

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Christie Flynn: I love that.

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Thank you so much, Elaine.

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I appreciate the opportunity to

share and learn with you too.

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As I appreciate you and all that you're

doing for your community in this way, and

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Elaine Lindsay @TheDarkPollyanna:

I thank you.

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All the information that you need to get

in touch with Christy will be down below

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on the page, her page, on Suicides and

Forgiveness, and we will have all her

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socials and everything else there as well.

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And until next time, as I often say,

make the very best of your today, every

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day, and we'll see you again soon.

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Adding empathy and offering hope to end the silence, stigma, and shame. ~Elaine Lindsay©2021

Come along on the transformative journey of ’Suicide Zen Forgiveness,’ where host Elaine Lindsay, a suicide loss survivor and advocate, invites listeners to break the silence about mental health struggles. Elaine wants to remove the shame felt by all who are touched by suicide loss, ideation and mental health. With over 50 years of personal experience, Elaine offers candid conversations, heartfelt stories, and practical insights aimed at ending the stigma and offering hope. Each episode explores themes of resilience, gratitude, and growth, encouraging listeners to navigate life’s challenges with bravery and compassion. Tune in for a blend of wisdom, authenticity, and unwavering support on a group journey of healing, hope, and understanding.

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